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Walter Hinteler




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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:42 am Post: 3212637 - Austrian hid daughter 24 y in cellar, fathered 7 children Back to topReport this post to the moderators

A 73-year-old Austrian man is in police custody after his daughter accused him of keeping her captive in a cellar for 24 years.

She has also accused her father of sexually abusing her throughout that period.

The woman - now 42 - gave birth to seven children during her ordeal.

Video @ reuters
Walter Hinteler




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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:43 am Post: 3212638 - Back to topReport this post to the moderators

Daily Mail:

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A 73-year-old Austrian man has been arrested on suspicion of holding his daughter hostage in a cellar for 24 years and fathering seven children with her.


The arrested man was named by police as Josef F and his daughter as 42-year-old Elisabeth F, who had been "missing" since 1984.

The case came to light after Elisabeth F's eldest child fell ill and had to be taken to hospital and doctors appealed for the mother to come forward.


Police said Elisabeth F told authorities her father had abused her since she was 11, had lured her into the basement of the block where the family lived in Amstetten in 1984.

She said he had drugged and handcuffed her before locking her up in a windowless dungeon.

It was assumed she had disappeared voluntarily when her parents received a letter from her saying they should not search for her.

Elisabeth gave birth to seven children, one of whom died shortly after being born, police said.

They said three of her younger children were each left in the house, the first accompanied by a letter saying Elisabeth was unable to care for the baby herself. All were taken in by Josef and his wife as foster or adopted children.

"She had been abused continuously during the 24-year-long imprisonment," the police statement said.

The two oldest children, aged 18 and 19, as well as the youngest aged 5, had been locked up with their mother since birth and had never seen sunlight or received any education, police said.

"A 19-year-old girl was dropped off at the Amstetten hospital last weekend, she is seriously ill and is fighting for her life," a police spokesman said.

Doctors appealed for girl's mother to come forward to provide more details about the daughter's medical history.

Josef then brought Elisabeth and her remaining two children out of the dungeon, telling his wife that their "missing" daughter had chosen to return home.

After questioning and assurances that she would have no further contact with her father, Elisabeth agreed to make a "comprehensive statement".

Rosemarie, as well as Elisabeth and her children were receiving psychological counselling.

DNA samples of all those involved were taken and would be analysed to determine who the father of the children was, police added.

Police said Josef was in custody but refused to speak about the allegations. His wife Rosemarie had been unaware of what had happened.

The case is reminiscent of that of Natascha Kampusch, who spent eight years locked up in a windowless cell beneath 44-year-old Woldgang Priklopil's garage in the town of Strasshof, 15 miles outside Vienna, before dashing to freedom in August 2006.
Chai




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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:47 am Post: 3212641 - Back to topReport this post to the moderators

The wife knew.
CalamityJane




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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:49 am Post: 3212642 - Back to topReport this post to the moderators

How could his wife, Rosemary, be so oblivious to all that?
Incomprehensible to me!
Walter Hinteler




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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:14 pm Post: 3213294 - Back to topReport this post to the moderators

Story in today's The Guardian:

Horror in a cellar: woman tells of 24 years of imprisonment and rape by her father

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Police said Elizabeth's mother was not suspected of involvement, having accepted that her daughter had run away. "As far as we've been able to ascertain, the wife of the accused had no contact with the 42-year-old woman and the other children," a local council official, Heinz Lenze said. The mother was also receiving counselling.

One neighbour said Josef had been "inconspicuous" and "always greeted us in a friendly way." Another said she had often seen Rosemarie with her grandchildren. "She is really very nice, taking the grandchildren to school -but we knew nothing of what was really going on."



And from the BBC: Timeline: Austrian cellar case
Bohne




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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:40 am Post: 3213397 - Back to topReport this post to the moderators

It has been all over the radio news, yesterday!
But I still cannot come to accept that this is real!

HOW crazy can one man be???
Walter Hinteler




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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:46 am Post: 3213399 - Back to topReport this post to the moderators

It's really hard to accept.
But it's not only the question how crazy men can be, IMHO.

How can the children live on in future?
How their mother?

And what about the family, neighbours, officials etc ?
Chai




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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:51 am Post: 3213405 - Back to topReport this post to the moderators

This is such a horror.

4 people, 3 of whom had never seen the world, living in a basement.

A woman giving birth multiple times, alone in that hell hole.

I absolutely do not believe the wife was unaware of any of this. Many times, children are molested by their father, and the mother choose to turn a blind eye, or even blame the child for this. Multiple babies just appearing on the doorstep?

During all the counseling the wife receives, I'm confident something will finally come out.

She knew. Keeping her husband was just more important than her children.
Phoenix32890




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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:59 am Post: 3213415 - Back to topReport this post to the moderators

I cannot believe that no one knew. This guy was siring a large family, who needed food, clothing, etc. Can anyone say that no one noticed all these years? How were all these kids supported?

This story has more holes in it than a hunk of Swiss cheese. I hope that one day the police learn the truth, and bring those involved to justice!
edgarblythe




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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:02 am Post: 3213416 - Back to topReport this post to the moderators

The mother was probably of the mentality of many an abuse victim. Meekly followed along the same way they do, through weakness of character, fear to change the situation for whatever reason, something of that order.
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